I'm out

[joe_cam]

Bad shit happens.
Joe Cam feels betrayed/hurt.

Bye.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Huh?

What's going on?

Dammit, Joe, you can't just up and leave, without giving a reason! Come back! :cry:

[Ybrik Metaknight]

I dont want to talk about it because I still dont know what the fuck is going on...but until I do, I'm not going on OUS... Some shit is going on and I dont know what or why... If it gets resolved, I'll be back...

[sempaimiles]

Sorry to say ybrik, I agree with Joe's feelings here...there does seem to be something going down...and it smells funky. Peace out Joe Cam!

-Miles

Edit: Speculation or not...I have talked with the man. He agrees with me quite frankly. However, if he doesn't want to talk about it...that's his business.

[hillarygayle]

All we've got right now is a bunch of speculation, guys.

I don't want Joe to leave. I wish he didn't feel like he needed to go, but he's gotta make that decision.

[ktriton]

Good luck, Joe. Hope you get everything sorted out.

[Vanion]

I have no idea what's going on here. I hope things start going better for you soon Joe and that whatever is going on that you get things settled for the best.

[Sterling]

Sorry to say ybrik, I agree with Joe's feelings here...there does seem to be something going down...and it smells funky. Peace out Joe Cam!

Yup, although I kept getting chat invitations for mourning over people that were chatting. That was stupid.

[missinglink]

Best of luck to you JoeCam. Hope everything goes fine.

[SaveSuperJoe]

well damn.

[creech42]

well damn.

[Variable Rush]

well damn.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

well damn.

cos it seemed fun

[Cloud Strife]

...Joe left. That's so not fair...he's the one introduced me to OneUp Studios...but I do feel the same way as him. The boards have definitely taken a turn for the worse, especially with those OCR fags coming over here.

[Walan]

especially with those OCR fags coming over here.


....does Walan have to choke a bitch?

[joe_cam]

I need to clarify I am not leaving over "OCR fags".
It is not Cruton, Pleasuredude, whatever...
There is other shit that needs to be taken care of.
Will I return? Hell, I could return tonight if shit gets straightened out. But who knows.

[HoundRogerson]

Will I return? Hell, I could return tonight if shit gets straightened out. But who knows.


he's shitting crooked? damn, thats really gotta hurt.

[hillarygayle]

Will I return? Hell, I could return tonight if shit gets straightened out. But who knows.


he's shitting crooked? damn, thats really gotta hurt.

Hound, you know I think you're great & all, but

*smacks you in the forehead with a brick*

[HoundRogerson]

Will I return? Hell, I could return tonight if shit gets straightened out. But who knows.


he's shitting crooked? damn, thats really gotta hurt.

Hound, you know I think you're great & all, but

*smacks you in the forehead with a brick*


OWWWWWWWW!!!!

just making light of a situation i don't understand at all. makes making cracks a lot harder.

[Ace!]

Best of luck, Joe. Please take care of yourself.

[hillarygayle]

Hound, you know I think you're great & all, but

*smacks you in the forehead with a brick*


OWWWWWWWW!!!!

just making light of a situation i don't understand at all. makes making cracks a lot harder.

Yeah, I know, and it's nice of you. If I were TRULY upset, I'd have said something serious. As it is, the Brick is simply reserved for truly TERRIBLE jokes. ^_^

[Cruton]

I need to clarify I am not leaving over "OCR fags".


I've go to OCR sometimes, but I'd prefer 'Vgmix Fag' if anything.



There is other shit that needs to be taken care of.
Will I return? Hell, I could return tonight if shit gets straightened out. But who knows.

Glad we agree. Its what I've been on about all week. Good to see this sentiment isnt really minority.

[Azar]

Whatever it is Joe, please be careful. This place just wont be the same without you.

[Jessperk]

I'd ask you about this on AIM, but it seems like you'd rather not. Send me an email or something whenever you feel like it though.

[Dimiotrix]

The board has certainly changed alot. I know im not the biggest or most sensical poster and alot of my stuff was off subject, but I did enjoy reading it. Now I dont :[

[HoundRogerson]

Hound, you know I think you're great & all, but

*smacks you in the forehead with a brick*


OWWWWWWWW!!!!

just making light of a situation i don't understand at all. makes making cracks a lot harder.

Yeah, I know, and it's nice of you. If I were TRULY upset, I'd have said something serious. As it is, the Brick is simply reserved for truly TERRIBLE jokes. ^_^


lol, i see. ok, thx for the clarification, hilary. now i feel much better that i got the brick, i hate making tasteful jokes. bad jokes, and stupid humor is much more fun.

[Kassi]

Whatever it is Joe, please be careful. This place just wont be the same without you.

I agree. I hope that whatever is causing you to say these things does get cleared up. Running away isn't the answer until it's the only thing you can do.

I hope you don't leave.

[Cloud Strife]

First off, Walan, I don't see you as an "OCR fag" because you're cool with OUS. It's the people from OCR that bash OUS or from OUS that bash OCR or whatever...people like you that's cool with all communities don't count.

And I'm not gonna sit on my lazy ass anymore. I was upgraded by Hillary from bodyguard to her Dragoon Knight, so...*pokes Hound in the ass with a spear*

And to Joe: I hope you come back soon, man...I'm really surprised you left here before me...

[hillarygayle]

lol, i see. ok, thx for the clarification, hilary. now i feel much better that i got the brick, i hate making tasteful jokes. bad jokes, and stupid humor is much more fun.

THAT'S THE SPIRIT!

*readies the Brick for more wonderfully bad jokes*

[joe_cam]

Whatever it is Joe, please be careful. This place just wont be the same without you.

I agree. I hope that whatever is causing you to say these things does get cleared up. Running away isn't the answer until it's the only thing you can do.

I hope you don't leave.

HA!

[Kassi]

HA!

?

[Walan]

First off, Walan, I don't see you as an "OCR fag" because you're cool with OUS. It's the people from OCR that bash OUS or from OUS that bash OCR or whatever...people like you that's cool with all communities don't count.

I don't mean to create any hostility. Sorry about that. Besides, we're forgetting the VGMix fags. ; )

And Joe, you grab that shit with BOTH HANDS and twist and bend until it's straightened out. And wash your hands when you're done.

[joe_cam]

Whatever it is Joe, please be careful. This place just wont be the same without you.

I agree. I hope that whatever is causing you to say these things does get cleared up. Running away isn't the answer until it's the only thing you can do.

I hope you don't leave.

To reiterate, since it doesn't seem to have been grasped:

"HA!"
and may I also add, "BULLSHIT"

Fuck, whatever, I'm supposed to have left, why am I still doing this?

[Variable Rush]

Fuck, whatever, I'm supposed to have left, why am I still doing this?

Because you're lonely?

[Cloud Strife]

I have the simple answer, Joe...it may sound corny, but this is it:

You're OneUp Studios biggest fan...

[Kassi]

Whatever it is Joe, please be careful. This place just wont be the same without you.

I agree. I hope that whatever is causing you to say these things does get cleared up. Running away isn't the answer until it's the only thing you can do.

I hope you don't leave.

To reiterate, since it doesn't seem to have been grasped:

"HA!"
and may I also add, "BULLSHIT"

Fuck, whatever, I'm supposed to have left, why am I still doing this?

I really hope you made that reply out of anger and not out of sincerity... I don't know what you could think about what I said was bullshit. When you say "why am I still doing this", what do you mean? doing what?

(edit) Ah, I see your point now. You meant, why are you still posting when you said you were leaving. Well, sometimes people change their minds about things. In the heat of emotion, it's easy to make choices that don't resonate later when things have calmed down. Hopefully you realize this now, and will go back to your usual self. :)

[zyko]

i hate saying that i saw this coming a mile away.

[Joshua Morse]

i hate saying that i saw this coming a mile away.

Yeah man. people be leading people on all the time.

[Cruton]

Fuck, whatever, I'm supposed to have left, why am I still doing this?

Probably cause this whole thread was a stab for attention.

[PleasureDude1]

Fuck, whatever, I'm supposed to have left, why am I still doing this?

Probably cause this whole thread was a stab for attention.

That's the very first thing I thought as well.

[LunchBox]

Fuck, whatever, I'm supposed to have left, why am I still doing this?

Probably cause this whole thread was a stab for attention.

That's the very first thing I thought as well.
You people need to take the fucking backseat for a little bit, damn

[Cruton]

Welcome to OneUp Studios where truth and honest feedback supression is our highest priority! (tm)

[Symmetry]

You forgot the trademark on the end there. : )

[LunchBox]

that didnt take long

[Cloud Strife]

Welcome to OneUp Studios: where the boards fall apart and take a turn for the worst everyday and Mustin doesn't give 2 shits.

Seriously, I'm about to follow Joe.

[Azar]

To the dissapointment of many of you, I'm not leaving. HA! :D

[Iskandar]

mods are dismissed out of a desire for neutrality (and possibly other reasons of which I'm ignorant).
a few people make some sarcastic posts and strong yet somewhat vague posts.
some people get upset and threaten to leave teh intraweb 4evar.

what am I missing?

[Cruton]

Welcome to OneUp Studios: where the boards fall apart and take a turn for the worst everyday and Mustin doesn't give 2 shits.

Seriously, I'm about to follow Joe.

Whats with this n00bie angst lately anyway? Few people don't agree with you and you people start leaving? Were you so used to the conformist moderated censoring that you simply cannot operate around people with differing opinions? I don't think you're going to survive in the real world, buddy.

[HoundRogerson]

what your missing, is the fact that it takes more time to wade through the bullshit posts. but, the problem is, most of the time, the bullshit posts piss off one person, and that starts a chain-reaction and soon everyone is pissed off. at that point, the topic has been completely abandoned, and all thats going on is a flame-fest.

[Cruton]

what your missing, is the fact that it takes more time to wade through the bullshit posts. but, the problem is, most of the time, the bullshit posts piss off one person, and that starts a chain-reaction and soon everyone is pissed off. at that point, the topic has been completely abandoned, and all thats going on is a flame-fest.

It would seem to me, as with the 'open discussion' thread, that several people including me are having a real discussion with much interest involving ous regulars and n00bies, with people like joe cam, matt pollard, and metaknight constantly interrupting us to flame. No really, thats all they're doing. Flaming. Go check it out.

Its this kind of hypocracy I'm against, and considering the amount of people here who are starting to agree with me, you might want to reconsider your claim and redirect your aim.

[Iskandar]

it's been confined to a handful of threads though. I don't know what to say if you (in a general sense) think that ruins a board.

[Cloud Strife]

You have it wrong...if I leave it will have nothing to do with you. These boards started to get bad months before you came here.

EDIT: Really the only reason I haven't left yet is Hillary...being the proud Dragoon Knight I am, I'm not about to leave the person I protect :D

So yeah, in advance if Hillary leaves, I'm following her out.

[Cruton]

You're one of those n00bie ideal feminists right? Now it all makes sense. In a few years when you turn 17, you'll look back and shudder. Its always the same story.

[Kassi]

Seriously, I'm about to follow Joe.™

[Kassi]

I don't think Joe's going anywhere.

Joshua, calm down. People be judging me left and right over this.

[HoundRogerson]

what your missing, is the fact that it takes more time to wade through the bullshit posts. but, the problem is, most of the time, the bullshit posts piss off one person, and that starts a chain-reaction and soon everyone is pissed off. at that point, the topic has been completely abandoned, and all thats going on is a flame-fest.

It would seem to me, as with the 'open discussion' thread, that several people including me are having a real discussion with much interest involving ous regulars and n00bies, with people like joe cam, matt pollard, and metaknight constantly interrupting us to flame. No really, thats all they're doing. Flaming. Go check it out.

Its this kind of hypocracy I'm against, and considering the amount of people here who are starting to agree with me, you might want to reconsider your claim and redirect your aim.


don't think i'm singling you out, cruton. i have been reading these posts every night, and have seen tons of bullshit from lots of people. hell, half of my own posts are nothing but complete bullshit.

hheh, actually, i'm surprised that a large number of the people here didn't come hunt me down after my first post on these boards. i rolled in here with a really strong position as a total noob.... er, sorry n00b (i dont really use, nor understand that "leetspeak" crap) and started *licking* people at random.

that instantaneously (sp?) pissed off half the posters here. but, i got around that through a lot of backpedalling, so i have done my part of shakng things up around here.

because of that, dont think i'm gonna come after you, or anyone else very harshly for what may be taken as "flaming". frankly, i got over a lot of that years ago, and for the most part, dont really care anymore.

i know this might prompt you to go looking for all of my posts, and calling me on this. go ahead, be my guest, i dont really mind. truthfully, id feel better if you did go and do that, than just saying "go choke on something", or any other comments like that.

now, to get back on track here (sorry, i tend to rant), the real bullshit posts i have a big problem with are those 120 point font posts. those just take up space, and seem like an infantile attempt to laugh at someone.

i cant remember everyone that made those, but i DO know that one of the people was fats9000. really, if someone is gonna make fun, or poke fun at someone, why use text that huge?

oh well, take what you want from this cruton. if you feel that im writing this whole novel, just to tell you to stfu, dont. im not, i dont like doing that. im just stating an opinion.




P.S. i hate Old Navy.

[joe_cam]

It's not text that is that massive, it is an image. The URL for the image (at the time I write this) is:

http://www.public.asu.edu/~arasulin/ROFL.GIF

The "arasulin" looks kinda familiar, eh?

[zyko]

dragoon knight?

what the living fuck?
well i'm a fucking gangster and i don't think its appropriate for me to evacuate the premises quite yet.
out of protection for dale north

[Cruton]

don't think i'm singling you out, cruton. i have been reading these posts every night, and have seen tons of bullshit from lots of people. hell, half of my own posts are nothing but complete bullshit.

No prob. From the context you stated your spiel in, looked to me like it was directed.
That’s coo, I agree.

And yes, getting upset over flaming, spamming, and internet TEXT is simply a sign of childish immaturity.

[PleasureDude1]

Welcome to OneUp Studios: where the boards fall apart and take a turn for the worst everyday and Mustin doesn't give 2 shits.

Seriously, I'm about to follow Joe.

If that's a threat, then I'm sure not quivering in my boots. I'll I can say is don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. :D

[mp]

it's immature to think that an idea means nothing because it's text on a screen. don't whine about hypocrisy like you have elsewhere, either. your being here in the first place indicates that you're emotionally affected by some internet TEXT.

[Cruton]

So, you're doing that thing again where you assume my motives. Just wanted to make sure you realized it.

Anyway, thanks for making your posts more direct and to the point. They're ridiculously easier to read this way.

One thing I'd work on though is changing subject.


it's immature to think that an idea means nothing because it's text on a screen. don't whine about hypocrisy, either. your being here in the first place indicates that you're emotionally affected by some text on the internet.

Has been said 100 times already. By you. Its just... why? call me a fag or something. Chronic decrease of creativity can lead to recession straying too far from the Edge of Chaos.

[PleasureDude1]

it's immature to think that an idea means nothing because it's text on a screen. don't whine about hypocrisy like you have elsewhere, either. your being here in the first place indicates that you're emotionally affected by some internet TEXT.

It's more of a counterpoint saying we really don't give a fuck. :P

[mp]

you obviously do, or you probably wouldn't be here! i advise you to let cruton do the talking, as you're a flat-out fucking idiot.

and cruton, it's not assuming motives so much as noting a pretty basic trend: if nothing inspired some reaction within you, you would not have stepped into these forums. why do i keep pointing that same thing out? because you're mired in denial and the fallacy that you have a compelling reason to stay here and terrorize everyone. you're just as emotionally chained to this cycle of bullshit as everyone you're patronizing.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Cruton, you're a fag.

Hey, don't "Don't feed the trolls!" me. He told us to. And I'm bored. And I really don't care anymore.

[Cruton]

Perhaps you're right. I won't deny the possibility. But instead of just saying it, go into more depth. Theres a few problems with the theory.
Firstly, If I'm so emotionally charged, why are my posts generally emotionless?
If I'm really hounding people out, flaming, and causing trouble, why are ous regulars agreeing with me?
And most importantly, the question you guys keep asking me, but never seem to have a real answer for; if I hate this community so much why am I here?

[Mustin]

1.) I do give a shit. This is my board. But I choose what I'm going to let affect me and what won't. If someone hates the site, great. If they love it, great. But I'm not going to do anything differently than what I'm doing now.

2.) No one is going anywhere. You say you're going to go, but then you just come right back. If you're going to leave, leave. If you're going to stay, stay. If you're not sure, just don't say anything. But Joe and Bernie, I can't see you leaving something you love so much. So just sit down in your chair and pipe down.

3.) Just because someone is trying to reason with the cruton and the like doesn't mean they're rooting for them. People like Hillary and especially Kassi are dear friends of mine and support what I do - there is no reason to attack them. But they also support rationalizing and intelligent conversation. No one could cause such a fuss on a text message board if they weren't intelligent. And since the majority of you have your proverbial panties in a wad, the lesson here is that Life will always throw in a curve ball now and then. You learn how to deal, or you fall behind. If you let someone on this message board, let alone text on a message board get to you, you need to re-evaluate the situation. I'm not going to moderate anyone because your feelings got hurt. Mine didn't?

4.) Grow up a bit. You tell someone like Cruton to grow up, when you can't grow up yourself. Even though he's hiding behind anonymity and won't just say who he is and get it over with, you can take the upper hand by acting a little more grown up, stop the name calling, and deal with it. Life isn't a simple deal where you can just delete people who challenge you. If that was the case, then I'd delete a lot of people, and a lot of people would delete me. That's not the way it works. You ignore it and move on.

5.) I do appreciate everyone's love for OneUp Studios. Not everyone is going to like it, sure. But that's what is so great about this community - there's something for everyone. OCR has excellent game remixes that are judged by a quality control panel to filter out what is deemed unworthy of their publicity. There's no denying the massive impact OverClocked ReMix has had on what we all do and love to listen to. It wasn't the first of the nature, but it was definitely the first to get major attention. And for being a part of that, I am grateful. They have every right to filter out what goes up on their front page because more people visit that site every day than most of the other sites combined. And then there's VGMix where anyone has a shot to be heard. Lots of amazing work that you wouldn't hear on OCR is there, and lots of stuff that needs some serious improvement. But we can all help each other if we just put some effort and thought into it - it's how you get better. And places like KFSS Studios and OneUp Studios offer remixed albums that you can buy and hold in your hand. And that's great for many reasons. One is that you get a consitent album with quality control and some sort of theme, and two because there's money actually going back to the owner of the music and it shows the big gaming companies that fans want stuff like this so much, that they're willing to do it themselves to make it a reality. In turn, that will eventually lead to the big companies releasing their own arranged soundtracks. What's not to love?! A few individuals that bring you down? Bogged down waiting times? Slow bandwidth? Costly CDs? If you don't like one, go to another. And if you don't like any of them, then just shut up and make your own site! Everything that's started that you love came from an idea and someone just doing it. And at every point someone's told them it wouldn't work. But it didn't stop David Lloyd, it didn't stop Jake Kaufman, it didn't stop Mike Newman, it didn't stop Stephen Kennedy, and it didn't stop Mustin and Dale North and everyone else who has created something that you love and visit often. All of these people have given you something, and this is how you treat them? You squabble on message boards about how you hate it? You say that the owner "doesn't give two shits?" You say the CDs cost too much? You say the MIDIs aren't exactly like the game?

I feel sorry for you all who think that way.

Don't let someone ruin your experience. Don't give in to hate. Make friends, listen to music, and enjoy what is offered. And always remember that one bad apple doesn't ruin the bushel. For every person who really has a hatred for another "remix site," there are nearly a hundred who visit, check out the music, and listen to it without having to join the community. And they'll love it, share it with their friends, and it will be truly appreciated. You don't have to post a hundred messages about how you love the music, or how you want to take pictures of the owners feet, or that djpretzel should have his own holiday. Just appreciate the hard work put into this.

Think for yourselves, friends. It's an eye opening experience.

[mp]

you can come across as cool and collected as you wish, but there is something urging you to post more and there was something that urged you to post to begin with. if that was something other than an emotion, and it stemmed from something other than internet text, then do explain.

i said myself that some of the things you've presented are valid points. however, given your track record--if you are indeed collaborator--it's impossible for someone who knows how you act towards anyone but your immediate posse to give you credit for anything but being an aimless nuisance with an axe to grind.

the reason we're asking you the question persistently is because you won't answer it. the basis of your initial attacks had to do with moderators that you disliked and mustin, and you have libeled oneup studios' goals, and productions. there don't seem to be many positive vibes coming from your general direction. if you mean to tell me that you have any feelings besides negativity towards the community and organization you're infesting, you're doing an awful job. you've come across loud and clear.

answer the fucking question yourself. you're skirting it repeatedly, and maybe this is because you've been called out on it and you don't feel like substantiating the claims about your forum terrorism.

your mindgames are what are boring. you accuse me of saying nothing, but you've been talking a lot and saying absolutely nothing this entire time.

[Shonen Samurai]

A whole goddamned lot

Yes.

Good to see you around, Mustifarious.

[Cruton]

???

[mp]

a pointed reprisal.

[Cloud Strife]

Wow...Kassi gave me a copyrighted phrase...

Wow...Joe Cam's still hanging around...

Wow...Mustin posted...

Wow..I...what the fuck?! Mustin posted?! *reads*

Great speech, dude...I seriously started to lose faith in you and I believe others did as well. I'm glad you decided to make that post and let us know what your feelings are. I feel rejuvinated faith in you now. [/corny speech]

[PleasureDude1]

1.) I do give a shit. This is my board. But I choose what I'm going to let affect me and what won't. If someone hates the site, great. If they love it, great. But I'm not going to do anything differently than what I'm doing now.

2.) No one is going anywhere. You say you're going to go, but then you just come right back. If you're going to leave, leave. If you're going to stay, stay. If you're not sure, just don't say anything. But Joe and Bernie, I can't see you leaving something you love so much. So just sit down in your chair and pipe down.

3.) Just because someone is trying to reason with the cruton and the like doesn't mean they're rooting for them. People like Hillary and especially Kassi are dear friends of mine and support what I do - there is no reason to attack them. But they also support rationalizing and intelligent conversation. No one could cause such a fuss on a text message board if they weren't intelligent. And since the majority of you have your proverbial panties in a wad, the lesson here is that Life will always throw in a curve ball now and then. You learn how to deal, or you fall behind. If you let someone on this message board, let alone text on a message board get to you, you need to re-evaluate the situation. I'm not going to moderate anyone because your feelings got hurt. Mine didn't?

4.) Grow up a bit. You tell someone like Cruton to grow up, when you can't grow up yourself. Even though he's hiding behind anonymity and won't just say who he is and get it over with, you can take the upper hand by acting a little more grown up, stop the name calling, and deal with it. Life isn't a simple deal where you can just delete people who challenge you. If that was the case, then I'd delete a lot of people, and a lot of people would delete me. That's not the way it works. You ignore it and move on.

5.) I do appreciate everyone's love for OneUp Studios. Not everyone is going to like it, sure. But that's what is so great about this community - there's something for everyone. OCR has excellent game remixes that are judged by a quality control panel to filter out what is deemed unworthy of their publicity. There's no denying the massive impact OverClocked ReMix has had on what we all do and love to listen to. It wasn't the first of the nature, but it was definitely the first to get major attention. And for being a part of that, I am grateful. They have every right to filter out what goes up on their front page because more people visit that site every day than most of the other sites combined. And then there's VGMix where anyone has a shot to be heard. Lots of amazing work that you wouldn't hear on OCR is there, and lots of stuff that needs some serious improvement. But we can all help each other if we just put some effort and thought into it - it's how you get better. And places like KFSS Studios and OneUp Studios offer remixed albums that you can buy and hold in your hand. And that's great for many reasons. One is that you get a consitent album with quality control and some sort of theme, and two because there's money actually going back to the owner of the music and it shows the big gaming companies that fans want stuff like this so much, that they're willing to do it themselves to make it a reality. In turn, that will eventually lead to the big companies releasing their own arranged soundtracks. What's not to love?! A few individuals that bring you down? Bogged down waiting times? Slow bandwidth? Costly CDs? If you don't like one, go to another. And if you don't like any of them, then just shut up and make your own site! Everything that's started that you love came from an idea and someone just doing it. And at every point someone's told them it wouldn't work. But it didn't stop David Lloyd, it didn't stop Jake Kaufman, it didn't stop Mike Newman, it didn't stop Stephen Kennedy, and it didn't stop Mustin and Dale North and everyone else who has created something that you love and visit often. All of these people have given you something, and this is how you treat them? You squabble on message boards about how you hate it? You say that the owner "doesn't give two shits?" You say the CDs cost too much? You say the MIDIs aren't exactly like the game?

I feel sorry for you all who think that way.

Don't let someone ruin your experience. Don't give in to hate. Make friends, listen to music, and enjoy what is offered. And always remember that one bad apple doesn't ruin the bushel. For every person who really has a hatred for another "remix site," there are nearly a hundred who visit, check out the music, and listen to it without having to join the community. And they'll love it, share it with their friends, and it will be truly appreciated. You don't have to post a hundred messages about how you love the music, or how you want to take pictures of the owners feet, or that djpretzel should have his own holiday. Just appreciate the hard work put into this.

Think for yourselves, friends. It's an eye opening experience.

Ya know, that's all noble and all, but I'm still scratching my head why you failed to ever mention the deals with piracy. Not to mention, how you completely missed the entire point of why Cruton and I were here.

"You say the MIDIs aren't exactly like the game?"

Since when did we say anything like that on these forums? Was this directed to us? I get the feeling, you haven't read this whole thread. Suppress your ignorance before you speak.

[hillarygayle]

(snipped a novel by Mustin)

Ya know, that's all noble and all, but I'm still scratching my head why you failed to ever mention the deals with piracy. Not to mention, how you completely missed the entire point of why Cruton and I were here.

"You say the MIDIs aren't exactly like the game?"

Since when did we say anything like that on these forums? Was this directed to us? I get the feeling, you haven't read this whole thread. Suppress your ignorance before you speak.

Nooooooooooo!

Dangit, PleasureDude. I was TOTALLY enjoying reading that post until that very last sentence! (Emphasis mine, btw.) *good naturedly strangles you* It was a series of EXTREMELY good points...with an insult tagged on the end! *falls over*

I imagine if you ask directly about the piracy, you'll receive an answer. I've looked through the thread (I admit, there's a lot of it, and I did a lot of scanning), and even if Mustin read this entire thread, I believe that piracy assertion is in a different one (the "Open Discussion" thread?). I don't think he's read that one yet. Now that it's come up here, though, it would be a good point of discussion.

[Mustin]

Ya know, that's all noble and all, but I'm still scratching my head why you failed to ever mention the deals with piracy. Not to mention, how you completely missed the entire point of why Cruton and I were here.

"You say the MIDIs aren't exactly like the game?"

Since when did we say anything like that on these forums? Was this directed to us? I get the feeling, you haven't read this whole thread. Suppress your ignorance before you speak.

First off, I didn't know you were saying anything about piracy. I didn't read the thread because I didn't care to. I'm not interested in it. As for piracy, the fact of the matter is that I downloaded Finale and that's it as far as music goes (I have a few other things like PaintShop Pro 7). But I will buy all of the software I use or have used just as soon as I can afford it. There you go.

And secondly, the MIDI comment wasn't directed towards you. I was making a reference to people who complain about Mike Newman's site, VGMusic.com, and how the MIDI's aren't exactly like the game. The point being, at least something is offered for you to listen to and yet people complain about it. I choose to be ignorant to the points of this thread, because I really don't care.

So there you go.

[Mustin]

Ya know, that's all noble and all, but I'm still scratching my head why you failed to ever mention the deals with piracy. Not to mention, how you completely missed the entire point of why Cruton and I were here.

"You say the MIDIs aren't exactly like the game?"

Since when did we say anything like that on these forums? Was this directed to us? I get the feeling, you haven't read this whole thread. Suppress your ignorance before you speak.

First off, I didn't know you were saying anything about piracy. I didn't read the thread because I didn't care to. I'm not interested in it. As for piracy, the fact of the matter is that I downloaded Finale and that's it as far as music goes (I have a few other things like PaintShop Pro 7). But I will buy all of the software I use or have used just as soon as I can afford it. There you go.

And secondly, the MIDI comment wasn't directed towards you. I was making a reference to people who complain about Mike Newman's site, VGMusic.com, and how the MIDI's aren't exactly like the game. The point being, at least something is offered for you to listen to and yet people complain about it. I choose to be ignorant to the points of this thread, because I really don't care.

If you have some questions for me, the best thing to do would be ask me in private instead of calling me out. Because I really can't take anyone seriously if they're going to ask someone on a public thread instead of contacting me directly.

[Cruton]

I'm alergic to bullshit, so I'm having a little trouble responding to the double post. To make the point, A. no you did not just pirate Finale so don't even try to.. fuck I keep sneezing. B. the point here is not just piracy, but using piracy as a means to profit. C. Another point - pirating gigasamples and the like to make music sound good cause you lack in compositional skill and thus released albums are rather mediocre to anyone who isn't a n00b.
I need to go blow my nose now, please no more bullshit for a while, at least until the Claritin BS kicks in.
Yes, that pun was derived from a really lackluster movie.

[Kassi]

Hi Mr Cruton. You already found this out, but I'm allergic to Bullshit too. :)

Just wanted to share another thing we had in common.

Call me naive, I don't care. As a female, it probably makes me cute, but growing up with Mustin, I've seen the quality of his music improve and expand. I don't consider myself a n00b musician or a n00b remix-listener although I certainly haven't been as open minded about listening to the stuff on OCR or VGmix in the past two years, so yeah, I'm entirely biased, talking out of my ass, when I say "yeah, well, I think this OUS stuff is far superior to the contemporaries".

That said, my argument is weak and limited. But, from my perspective, and I don't consider myself to have an untrained musical ear, I think Mustin's music production is top of the line. You know how in high school you could write the best essay in the class but the teacher gives you a b minus because she's grading the individual rather than the individual in comparision to the rest of the class? That's the same way I look at Mustin and his work.

[Cruton]

And you're definately not alone in that sentiment.

[mp]

i just watched harry potter and the chamber of secrets. i found it to be an extremely well-done interpretation of rowling's novel.

thoughts?

[hillarygayle]

And you're definately not alone in that sentiment.

Y'know, speaking with Kassi elsewhere, she made this comment (re: Britney Spears' "Toxic"): "It's not GOOD, but I like it."

That may be the best way to explain my love for a LOT of the VGM arrangements/mixes that I favor. Some of them aren't just the greatest music in the world. The songs might have flaws, they might not be the most technically correct songs, but I enjoy them. Just because I enjoy them doesn't mean I think the songs are perfect; I see the flaws. It's just that those things I enjoy about the songs outweigh those things I might not.

[Azar]

i just watched harry potter and the chamber of secrets. i found it to be an extremely well-done interpretation of rowling's novel.

thoughts?

It was a tad bit confusing, but I found it to be an alright movie. Then again, I didnt read the books.

Wait a minute, were off topic!

[mp]

confusing? how so? did you see the first film, and did you read the books?

i'm more curious about cruton's opinion, though! they seem like they'd have a critical eye for cinema.

[Azar]

confusing? how so? did you see the first film, and did you read the books?

i'm more curious about cruton's opinion, though! they seem like they'd have a critical eye for cinema.

Well I didnt read the books...but I cant remember specfically what it was that confused me, it's been about year since I saw it. It wasnt anything major in the plot, but it was a few minor things I didnt get. I really should have read the books.

[hillarygayle]

i just watched harry potter and the chamber of secrets. i found it to be an extremely well-done interpretation of rowling's novel.

thoughts?

I thought C of S was quite well done, though I MUCH preferred the cinematic interpretation of P of A. I felt the director (Cuaron) of P of A stuck admirably close to the "feel" of P of A. Arguably, Columbus just didn't have as dark a feel to work with, but I also preferred Cuaron's view of magic. In C of S, even the smallest, most insignificant spells blew people against walls & shook the ground. In the books, and in the P of A movie, magic is integrated with everyday life and isn't always so dramatic, though it can be.

In short, I really like all the HP movies thus far, and I am a HUGE, HUGE fan of the novels. I think Rowling is VERY good at transporting you into "her" world for the duration of your read. Two thumbs up all around.

[mp]

sweet. i've read about azkaban the film and i'm reading the book right now. i can't wait to watch it :D

[hillarygayle]

sweet. i've read about azkaban the film and i'm reading the book right now. i can't wait to watch it :D

I find the books to be better than the movies, but that's LIKELY because I simply like reading better than watching movies. I'm biased.

But I think it's AWESOME when people decide to do both. Best way to make an informed decision.

[lola]

Another dodge by pollard to avoid maintaining an iota of relevance.

[hillarygayle]

Another dodge by pollard to avoid maintaining an iota of relevance.

That happens more times in this forum than I care to count. >_<

Question: Does your name begin with a capital letter "I", or a lowercase letter "L"?

[PleasureDude1]

I'm alergic to bullshit, so I'm having a little trouble responding to the double post. To make the point, A. no you did not just pirate Finale so don't even try to.. fuck I keep sneezing. B. the point here is not just piracy, but using piracy as a means to profit. C. Another point - pirating gigasamples and the like to make music sound good cause you lack in compositional skill and thus released albums are rather mediocre to anyone who isn't a n00b.
I need to go blow my nose now, please no more bullshit for a while, at least until the Claritin BS kicks in.
Yes, that pun was derived from a really lackluster movie.

Your words alone are poetic justice. *applauds*

[Cloud Strife]

I'm alergic to bullshit, so I'm having a little trouble responding to the double post. To make the point, A. no you did not just pirate Finale so don't even try to.. fuck I keep sneezing. B. the point here is not just piracy, but using piracy as a means to profit. C. Another point - pirating gigasamples and the like to make music sound good cause you lack in compositional skill and thus released albums are rather mediocre to anyone who isn't a n00b.
I need to go blow my nose now, please no more bullshit for a while, at least until the Claritin BS kicks in.
Yes, that pun was derived from a really lackluster movie.

Your words alone are poetic justice. *applauds*

Spelling correction!

Poetic trash*

Ahhhh...feels so much better.

[Iskandar]

way to lead by example, dude!

[Cloud Strife]

To each his own. He felt it was poetic justice, and I felt he made a mistake when choosing his words.

[Iskandar]

feel all you want.

follow your own advice next time.

[Cloud Strife]

I take pride in being a hypocrite.

[PleasureDude1]

I'm alergic to bullshit, so I'm having a little trouble responding to the double post. To make the point, A. no you did not just pirate Finale so don't even try to.. fuck I keep sneezing. B. the point here is not just piracy, but using piracy as a means to profit. C. Another point - pirating gigasamples and the like to make music sound good cause you lack in compositional skill and thus released albums are rather mediocre to anyone who isn't a n00b.
I need to go blow my nose now, please no more bullshit for a while, at least until the Claritin BS kicks in.
Yes, that pun was derived from a really lackluster movie.

Your words alone are poetic justice. *applauds*

Spelling correction!

Poetic trash*

Ahhhh...feels so much better.

It's sad to see such n00bness. If you change a word, then it would be a "word" correction, not a spelling correction. If things this little make you feel so much better, then it's obvious that you're an example of what Cruton was talking about. You just admitted you get emotional over a word change, meaning you are most obviously immature, and couldn't handle being in a public place without wetting yourself. Such attacks as these are no better than reading a poorly edited newspaper article. It's just sad. Cloud, everytime you have posted, you seem to be one year younger than before. I think you're 8 about now.

[Cloud Strife]

It's sad to see such n00bness.

Hey, bitch, only af can call me a n00b.


Cloud, everytime you have posted, you seem to be one year younger than before. I think you're 8 about now.

Wow...I age backwards...maybe I should turn myself into the government...I could make lotsa blinga.

[PleasureDude1]

It's sad to see such n00bness.

Hey, bitch, only af can call me a n00b.


Cloud, everytime you have posted, you seem to be one year younger than before. I think you're 8 about now.

Wow...I age backwards...maybe I should turn myself into the government...I could make lotsa blinga.

And with that, you have again proved how predictable and n00bish you really are.

[Cloud Strife]

With no due respect, I'm not the troll...

[PleasureDude1]

With no due respect, I'm not the troll...

Thanks boy! You actually made an oxymoron there! You have no respect for me, yet you're generous enough to call me a troll! Coming from you means a lot, because everyone on this forum knows what a loser you have proved yourself to be. At least my posts have structure and points, not some slanderous, pointless, n00bish, hypocritical bullshit in every single post such as yourself. Browse through a couple threads buddy. Even OUS members are starting to revolt against you.

Thanks again!

[Cloud Strife]

Dude, I know others rib me and shit, and I'm pretty sure Mustin hates my guts, but all that aside, I'm not a loser...you're definitely the loser here. And I must admit I am jealous just a tiny bit about you...and that's because Joe Cam said you're more annoying than me. Fucking nobody takes that Title away from me...

[PleasureDude1]

I'm not a loser...you're definitely the loser here.

You are lacking originality here. My 9 year old cousin could think of a come back like that. Also, for a second, let's evaluate shall we?

PleasureDude1 = pisses people off = provides valid points = intelligent remarks = structure = Troll

Cloud Strife = pisses people off = name calls = has no points = is a hypocrite = has no originality at all.......NOT TROLL?

Should I whip out the ROFL pic again?

[Cloud Strife]

Sorry, I don't do comebacks too often...but if you ever meet me face to face, I'd love to kick your ass :D

And on that note, I am now gone...going back over my gram's house...l8r.

[animefreak]

please stop, cloud :( it really is getting ridiculous.

[Almasy Marquis]

Don't feed the Cloud.

[Gendo Ikari]

Don't feed the Cloud.
Hahahahahaha! OMG, that is so funny, I just had to write this...
...oh LORD, my sides hurt! LoLz!

...Almasy Marquis, I've always been wondering, who is the man waving the hands in your avatar?
I can't tell...

[mp]

welcome to the forums, lola. where are you from?

[Almasy Marquis]

That is Donald Rumsfeld, the United States Secretary of Defense.

[joe_cam]

Don't feed the Cloud.

[FaithisHot]

Don't feed the Cloud.

BWAH!

[PleasureDude1]

Don't feed the Cloud.

PWNT

[Gendo Ikari]

That is Donald Rumsfeld, the United States Secretary of Defense.
Right, and why was he waving his hands like that? It looks so funny! :D

Plus, saying, "Don't feed the Cloud!" is just so funny, because, well, clouds don't eat!

Plus, how would you FEED a cloud? It's all the way up there, in the SKY!

"Here, Cloudy, old boy! Have some...cloud...feed..."

"(Whatever sounds clouds make here)"

And my mind has just gone to rot...

[Almasy Marquis]

Right, and why was he waving his hands like that? It looks so funny! :D

Plus, saying, "Don't feed the Cloud!" is just so funny, because, well, clouds don't eat!

Plus, how would you FEED a cloud? It's all the way up there, in the SKY!

"Here, Cloudy, old boy! Have some...cloud...feed..."

"(Whatever sounds clouds make here)"
Oh my god.

[Anonymous]

Right, and why was he waving his hands like that? It looks so funny! :D

Plus, saying, "Don't feed the Cloud!" is just so funny, because, well, clouds don't eat!

Plus, how would you FEED a cloud? It's all the way up there, in the SKY!

"Here, Cloudy, old boy! Have some...cloud...feed..."

"(Whatever sounds clouds make here)"
Oh my god.
Aww damn, Gendo, you just turned into a girl...

...or you just been reading too many of the ladies' humor to come up with that...

[Almasy Marquis]

Aww damn, Gendo, you just turned into a girl...

...or you just been reading too many of the ladies' humor to come up with that...

Okay.

You can talk 'like you normally do' all you want. Whatever.

Fuck off with being sexist. Wrong board, wrong century.

[hillarygayle]

Right, and why was he waving his hands like that? It looks so funny! :D

Plus, saying, "Don't feed the Cloud!" is just so funny, because, well, clouds don't eat!

Plus, how would you FEED a cloud? It's all the way up there, in the SKY!

"Here, Cloudy, old boy! Have some...cloud...feed..."

"(Whatever sounds clouds make here)"
Oh my god.
Aww damn, Gendo, you just turned into a girl...

...or you just been reading too many of the ladies' humor to come up with that...

Barrett, darling...you do recall that I am a girl, yes? Does MY humor consist basically of vacant, ditzy observations on the inability of a human to feed meteorological phenomenon?

No.

*hits Barrett in the forehead with The Brick*

There now.

[Gendo Ikari]

Aww damn, Gendo, you just turned into a girl...or you just been reading too many of the ladies' humor to come up with that...
Okay.You can talk 'like you normally do' all you want. Whatever.
Fuck off with being sexist. Wrong board, wrong century.
Yeah, seriously man, that's not cool.


Barrett, darling...you do recall that I am a girl, yes?
Does MY humor consist basically of vacant, ditzy observations on the inability of a human to feed meteorological phenomenon?
:O Did I just get pwned by hillarygayle? :O I am so sorry I made that stupid joke... T_T

...what was this topic about again?

Joe_Cam leaving? And NOW where are we going with this?

[FaithisHot]

I think it would be funny if getting hit in the head with a brick made Barret Wallace start speaking with a British accent.

[Anonymous]

Aww damn, Gendo, you just turned into a girl...or you just been reading too many of the ladies' humor to come up with that...
Okay. You can talk 'like you normally do' all you want. Whatever.
Fuck off with being sexist. Wrong board, wrong century.

I think it would be funny if getting hit in the head with a brick made Barret Wallace start speaking with a British accent.
(Refers to Baroquiel for this one)
Well, I must say, I never imagined that my commentary would be misconsreud in such a manner! :D

...I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off sexist, it just sounds like what Gendo said definitely sounds like what my girlfriends like to say...

[Anonymous]

...

[Azar]

Barrett, darling...you do recall that I am a girl, yes? Does MY humor consist basically of vacant, ditzy observations on the inability of a human to feed meteorological phenomenon?

No.

*hits Barrett in the forehead with The Brick*

There now.

I realize the joke was a tad stupid, but is it really worth hitting somebody with a brick over?

[Cloud Strife]

Don't feed the Cloud.

I'm laughing myself, actually. Laughing at how when these guys first started trolling in OUS, it was most of you guys telling them to just shut the fuck up and argue with them when I was one of the few who tried to make them feel weclome.

[Almasy Marquis]

VICTORY WELFARE

[Kassi]

Cloud, here's some food for thought.

Those people just stopped caring. Consider this quote, "People speak when they cease to be at peace with their thoughts."

Calm down and let it go. It's not anyone's battle anymore.

[Joshua Morse]

Cloud, here's some food for thought.

Those people just stopped caring. Consider this quote, "People speak when they cease to be at peace with their thoughts."

Calm down and let it go. It's not anyone's battle anymore.

since when are you talking down to people

[Cruton]

Just cause you say someone was trolling doesn't make it true. Just cause we were fiercely attacked doesn't make us trolls. Just cause you troll against troll doesn't mean you're not a troll.

The man who gets mad and trolls at the right time for the right reasons in the right environment is commended. cept ofcourse in the eyes of those who see through the ploy.

[Symmetry]

I think it would be funny if getting hit in the head with a brick made Barret Wallace start speaking with a British accent.

Hmm.

I don't think I've been drunk enough to really be considered trashed, but the two instances I had a little more to drink than I probably should have resulted in my speaking with a British accent uncontrollably.

So maybe if we want Barret to talk with an accent, we should get him drink. But then it occurs to me that would make smashing him in the head with a brick worthless.

Unless you just want to be mean like that. : )

[Cloud Strife]

Yes, I must recognize my actions. Especially after I left that speech about not feeding the trolls I went and did that. I'm not going to say I'm sorry because I don't do that, but I will admit it was a mistake.

[Kassi]

since when are you talking down to people

Sometimes I come accross as that way and I don't mean to. I intended to be helpful with Bernie.

[Gendo Ikari]

Kassi, what happened to the "e" and "!" that used to be at the end of your name?

or am I thinking of someone else?

didn't you work on a few Secret of Mana remixes? :?

[Walan]

Yes, I must recognize my actions. Especially after I left that speech about not feeding the trolls I went and did that. I'm not going to say I'm sorry because I don't do that, but I will admit it was a mistake.

So, problem solved?

Do we all get to eat cake and laugh about this now?

[Kassi]

Kassi, what happened to the "e" and "!" that used to be at the end of your name?

or am I thinking of someone else?

didn't you work on a few Secret of Mana remixes? :?

that's me. They just disappeared one day...

Actually, at the restaurant I worked at, a cook made my tip cup for me and he spelled my name "Kassi" on it, so in order for them to know where my tips went, I had to start spelling my name like that on the tickets. It got into the system there and I just decided to go along with them and change it so that no one would get confused. It just didn't seem important enough to correct at the time and I really don't care how people spell my name as long as it's recognizable.

[Gendo Ikari]

Kassi, what happened to the "e" and "!" that used to be at the end of your name?

or am I thinking of someone else?

didn't you work on a few Secret of Mana remixes? :?

that's me. They just disappeared one day...

Actually, at the restaurant I worked at, a cook made my tip cup for me and he spelled my name "Kassi" on it, so in order for them to know where my tips went, I had to start spelling my name like that on the tickets. It got into the system there and I just decided to go along with them and change it so that no one would get confused. It just didn't seem important enough to correct at the time and I really don't care how people spell my name as long as it's recognizable.
Those were a great couple of remixes!

And those bastards EMASCULATED your name!!

How could that not be important?

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Gendo, I'm guessing your real name is one that can really only be spelled one way (maybe there's a rare variant spelling, but you use the more common spelling), something that anyone with half a brain can figure out.

My name is Jarod. There's probably more than 20 different ways to spell that name, between J vs. G, one r or two, different vowel combinations, etc. When your name can be spelled so many different ways like that, you just don't care as much. The way I see it, as long as it's not spelled wrong on the things that count (i.e. any sort of official document, or anything that's published for all to see, stuff like that), it really doesn't matter.

[hillarygayle]

And those bastards EMASCULATED your name!!

How could that not be important?

Well, given that "Kassie" is a girl's name to begin with (at least, I have never met any guys named Kassie), and that Kassie is INDEED a girl, her name cannot then be "emasculated", as the definition thereof is "remove the masculinity of". I somehow doubt Kassi would MIND terribly if you removed the masculinity of her name! ^o^

[Cruton]

Well, given that "Kassie" is a girl's name to begin with (at least, I have never met any guys named Kassie), and that Kassie is INDEED a girl,

These claims are ludicrous, try backing them up.

[Almasy Marquis]

As Socrates would put it:

Kassi is a girl,
and Kassi is a girl's name,
therefore Cruton posted.

Awesome.

[Cruton]

As Socrates would put it:

Kassi is a girl,
and Kassi is a girl's name,
therefore Cruton posted.

Awesome.

I don't have to suffer this bullshit logic anymore. You're obviously below my intelligence thinking level of smartness in messageboard stuff level.

I'm leaving this messageboard forever! BYE

[Azar]

I'm leaving this messageboard forever! BYE

NO! You cant just leave us! What will we do without you?!

[hillarygayle]

Well, given that "Kassie" is a girl's name to begin with (at least, I have never met any guys named Kassie), and that Kassie is INDEED a girl,

These claims are ludicrous, try backing them up.

Well, I apologize for my lack of evidence that I have never met any guys named Kassie. ^_^ I HAVE met a guy named Lacey, and several named Stacey, but no Kassies. You might just have to take my word for it.

As far as my claim that Kassie's a girl...again, I apologize for my lack of proof! Having never met Kassi to her face, I have only what she tells me to go on. Unless she wants to post her birth certificate on the boards or something. ^_^

[Iskandar]

=(

[Cruton]

Well, given that "Kassie" is a girl's name to begin with (at least, I have never met any guys named Kassie), and that Kassie is INDEED a girl,

These claims are ludicrous, try backing them up.

Well, I apologize for my lack of evidence that I have never met any guys named Kassie. ^_^ I HAVE met a guy named Lacey, and several named Stacey, but no Kassies. You might just have to take my word for it.

As far as my claim that Kassie's a girl...again, I apologize for my lack of proof! Having never met Kassi to her face, I have only what she tells me to go on. Unless she wants to post her birth certificate on the boards or something. ^_^

It doesn't surprise me at all that you have no proof. Sometimes its really hard to fabricate lies when all the evidence is against you. Maybe you should just wake up and shove off that denial. Embrace reality. last post.

[hillarygayle]

It doesn't surprise me at all that you have no proof. Sometimes its really hard to fabricate lies when all the evidence is against you. Maybe you should just wake up and shove off that denial. Embrace reality. last post.

Given that Kassie herself is pretty open about her female status, I'm not sure what it is I'm in denial about. Let's see...I have witnesses! Lots of people who have met Kassie assure me of her female status, as does Kassie herself. Does that work?

And...by any chance, are you drunk? ^_~

[Iskandar]

yeah, on Trollweiser.

[joe_cam]

I've met her, she is indeed female. An awesome female at that. She's good at Scrabble too.

[Sterling]

I'm lonely, I need a girl

[Ybrik Metaknight]

I'm lonely, I need a girl

Ditto

[SaveSuperJoe]

I'm lonely, I need a girl

Ditto


....yeah...

[Cruton]

It doesn't surprise me at all that you have no proof. Sometimes its really hard to fabricate lies when all the evidence is against you. Maybe you should just wake up and shove off that denial. Embrace reality. last post.

Given that Kassie herself is pretty open about her female status, I'm not sure what it is I'm in denial about. Let's see...I have witnesses! Lots of people who have met Kassie assure me of her female status, as does Kassie herself. Does that work?

And...by any chance, are you drunk? ^_~

You can't back yourself up beyond questionable claims and fuzzy math, and then to try to compound this fallacy, you claim that I may be drunk?

Unlike you, I can back up my logic with FACTS. EVER HEARD OF FACTS? YEA, WATCH.
Btw, this is my last post ever.

According to http://www.statistics.gov.uk/, 193 out of 194 people named Kassie are female.
On the same website, you'll find that only 13% of the world has internet access, which makes this random kassie very likely to not have internet at all. Yea, I'm not ruling out the possibility that you're fabricating little white lies to keep your faith in the existance of one kassie alive and fresh. This is called denial.

www.statsoftinc.com states that for every person, there are 1.0001 forum accounts on average.

finally, http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ proves that violent crime rates have declined since 1994, reaching the lowest level ever recorded in 2002.

So, I feel satisfied now that I've crushed your feeble attempt at attacking my theories. Clearly this is a case of whitebread denial. You may be fooling others, but I can see through you like an effloresce ployurethan. From now on I'll be watching what you say.

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[lola]

You talk too much fag.

[Almasy Marquis]

Satisfied like Cruton's dad, maybe.

Get down with the sickness

[Miller]

It doesn't surprise me at all that you have no proof. Sometimes its really hard to fabricate lies when all the evidence is against you. Maybe you should just wake up and shove off that denial. Embrace reality. last post.

Given that Kassie herself is pretty open about her female status, I'm not sure what it is I'm in denial about. Let's see...I have witnesses! Lots of people who have met Kassie assure me of her female status, as does Kassie herself. Does that work?

And...by any chance, are you drunk? ^_~

You can't back yourself up beyond questionable claims and fuzzy math, and then to try to compound this fallacy, you claim that I may be drunk?

Unlike you, I can back up my logic with FACTS. EVER HEARD OF FACTS? YEA, WATCH.
Btw, this is my last post ever.

According to http://www.statistics.gov.uk/, 193 out of 194 people named Kassie are female.
On the same website, you'll find that only 13% of the world has internet access, which makes this random kassie very likely to not have internet at all. Yea, I'm not ruling out the possibility that you're fabricating little white lies to keep your faith in the existance of one kassie alive and fresh. This is called denial.

www.statsoftinc.com states that for every person, there are 1.0001 forum accounts on average.

finally, http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ proves that violent crime rates have declined since 1994, reaching the lowest level ever recorded in 2002.

So, I feel satisfied now that I've crushed your feeble attempt at attacking my theories. Clearly this is a case of whitebread denial. You may be fooling others, but I can see through you like an effloresce ployurethan. From now on I'll be watching what you say.

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Hehe that's a good theory actually. However you are relying heavily on probability, thus my theory is Math is not entirely correct. How could something be right if still using it, it is impossible to understand everything of it. (ex. infinity) Until we can fix it to do so, I will not rely on math for anything (except for computer programming and adding to my checking account :D)

[Kassi]

wow...

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Miller, if you can't comprehend that if you can't rely on math for some things then you can't rely on it for anything, and therefore insist on using it for things in which math is necessary, I'm leaving the boards for good.

[joe_cam]

Get help, Ari...seriously...

[Cruton]

Get help, Ari...seriously...

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.

[Gendo Ikari]

Get help, Ari...seriously...

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.
Now, this is your last post, ever, right? Bye? :D

[Cruton]

Get help, Ari...seriously...

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.
Now, this is your last post, ever, right? Bye? :D
yes. Bye.

[Gendo Ikari]

Get help, Ari...seriously...

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.
Now, this is your last post, ever, right? Bye? :D
yes. Bye.
BYE? :D

[Cruton]

Get help, Ari...seriously...

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.
Now, this is your last post, ever, right? Bye? :D
yes. Bye.
BYE? :D
BYE DAMNIT. DONT PISS ME OFF OR I SWEAR I"M GOING TO LEAVE FOREVER

[Iskandar]

haha

[Gendo Ikari]

Get help, Ari...seriously...

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.
Now, this is your last post, ever, right? Bye? :D
yes. Bye.
BYE? :D
BYE DAMNIT. DONT PISS ME OFF OR I SWEAR I"M GOING TO LEAVE FOREVER
FOREVER? DO YOU PROMISE? :D

[Cruton]

HOLY SHIT I"M A FAG ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.
I'm a total fag. Wanna cyber? :D
yes. Bye.
Really? well I'm NOT REALLY GAY! HAHAHAHAHAHA :D
BYE DAMNIT. DONT PISS ME OFF OR I SWEAR I"M GOING TO LEAVE FOREVER
Wait Wait, I am actually gay, please come back. :D

TO LATE GO FUCK YOURSELF FAG

[Anonymous]

HOLY SHIT I"M A FAG ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

My name is steve damnit. Fuck this. I'm leaving.

This is my last post. bye.
I'm a total fag. Wanna cyber? :D
yes. Bye.
Really? well I'm NOT REALLY GAY! HAHAHAHAHAHA :D
BYE DAMNIT. DONT PISS ME OFF OR I SWEAR I"M GOING TO LEAVE FOREVER
Wait Wait, I am actually gay, please come back. :D

TO LATE GO FUCK YOURSELF FAG
Shut the fuck up and shit back down, you're not going anywhere! Fag! :twisted:

[Miller]

Miller, if you can't comprehend that if you can't rely on math for some things then you can't rely on it for anything, and therefore insist on using it for things in which math is necessary, I'm leaving the boards for good.

Your statement is invalid, try again. And for what you actually ment, I can comprehend that the world is made on this invalid math, thus we must use this math inorder for this world as we know it to be semicomprehendable. It gives us the feeling of knowledge thus we must have it, but in the near future, I will give undeniable proof that Math is 100% incorrect. But because the world as we know it is built on it, either that will be the last day of my life inorder to protect that fact or people will ignore it and still use the invalid math. And also I think it will be funny when the world knows the truth.

[MaJIN_SaN]

Miller, you suck at life. Go die!

[Miller]

Miller, you suck at life. Go die!

This is an example of a guy who will lose sanity when math is no longer existant. Don't worry man, you will get over it in a few months/years.

[MaJIN_SaN]

Miller... buddy... This has nothing to do with math. I just don't like you.

[fats9000]

It's ok millar!!!11 I STIL LIEK U!!!!111

LOLOLOL OL OL OL OL L

wait... stfu you say? oh ok.

[hillarygayle]

I want Cruton to come back and explain some more why Kassie either a) doesn't exist, or b) is a guy, or c) some theory only Cruton understands at the moment.

That was WAY fun.

[Azar]

I think Curton is Kassi, in disguise, just to mess with everyones heads.

It would even be funnier if Cruton was actually Mustin.

[Cruton]

I think Curton is Kassi, in disguise, just to mess with everyones heads.

It would even be funnier if Cruton was actually Mustin.

Thats crazy! You're crazy. I don't like this conversation. You are stupid. I hate you. I'm leaving. This is my last post forever. Bye

[hillarygayle]

MAN, I love him. ^_^ Cruton, my friend, you are HOURS of wonderful entertainment while I'm at work! *thumbs up*

[Gendo Ikari]

It would even be funnier if Cruton was actually Mustin.
you think Mustin has the time to be a forum troll? Or demon? Can't be.

[Tenseiga]

Wait, so joe_cam did leave, right? I thought I saw him post again after this thread.

[hillarygayle]

Wait, so joe_cam did leave, right? I thought I saw him post again after this thread.

I believe Joe reconsidered and decided to stay. However, he has been much less frequent a poster since that time.

[Miller]

Miller... buddy... This has nothing to do with math. I just don't like you.

Oic... Wait maybe I don't. How can I be your buddy but you don't like me... That doesn't make much sense.

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

[Cloud Strife]

Kassi is a girl,
and Kassi is a girl's name,
therefore Cruton posted.

If that was supposed to be a Haiku, you screwed up. The last line has 6 syllables (sp?,) not 5.


Aw, c'mon, Cruton, don't let what these "lowlifes" said get to you. You need to be "strong" and overcome them. Just remember: you are "better" than them. We will sincerely "miss" you if you leave...even more than Joe Cam. [/sarcasm] © Ybrik Metaknight

[hillarygayle]

Cruton leaves the board.
Suddenly all is darkness.
Why, Cruton? Wherefore?

There ya go. Haiku!

[Almasy Marquis]

If that was supposed to be a Haiku, you screwed up. The last line has 6 syllables (sp?,) not 5.

It wasn't, it was a false rendering of the Socratic method. Socrates, being Greek, wouldn't have employed Japanese poetic form.

The Socratic method of reasoning is usually illustrated as thus:

If X = Y and Y = Z, then X = Z.

For example,

All men are mortal.
Socrates is a man.
Therefore Socrates is mortal.

[Symmetry]

Er - I thought the Socratic Method wasn't a logical pattern as much as it was a method of diologue. The instructor (or whomever) asks questions and the student responds and the instructor continues to build on those responses in a way that further drives home the subject at hand. (The idea being that the student actually has to think about what they're learning.)

I believe what you described is a syllogism.

[Gendo Ikari]

Er - I thought the Socratic Method wasn't a logical pattern as much as it was a method of diologue. The instructor (or whomever) asks questions and the student responds and the instructor continues to build on those responses in a way that further drives home the subject at hand. (The idea being that the student actually has to think about what they're learning.)

I believe what you described is a syllogism.
That's what Baro used to like to do in his philosophy threads...
To answer your question though, Socrates both asked questions of his students like that, but also invented the "If X = Y, and Y = Z, then X = Z" logic system.

[Symmetry]

The Socratic Method is not the only principle of philosophy in existence. Nor is it limited to philosophy. Teachers have used the principle for hundreds of years now.

While Socrates may have produced the first formal works demonstrating proper methods of reasoning (I'm not sure.) you cannot "invent" logic. People have been using it since the very beginning.

[Cruton]

Miller... buddy... This has nothing to do with math. I just don't like you.

Oic... Wait maybe I don't. How can I be your buddy but you don't like me... That doesn't make much sense.

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

You suck at whatever instrument it is you play.

[Kassi]

I think Curton is Kassi, in disguise, just to mess with everyones heads.

It would even be funnier if Cruton was actually Mustin.

heh.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Wow...syllogisms and haiku...two of my favorite things in one thread...cool!

Knowledge is power.
But power corrupts, therefore...
Knowledge, too, corrupts.

Hadda get creative on that last line.

[Kassi]

God is Love.
Love is Blind.
Therefore, God is Blind.

[Azar]

I think Curton is Kassi, in disguise, just to mess with everyones heads.

It would even be funnier if Cruton was actually Mustin.

Thats crazy! You're crazy. I don't like this conversation. You are stupid. I hate you. I'm leaving. This is my last post forever. Bye

oh, that hurts man. I'm gonna go cut my wrists now. :(

[Almasy Marquis]

You're right, Sym. Thanks.

No, Gendo, that's not what Baro was doing.

[FaithisHot]

And even if it was, who appointed him instructor?

It never particularly bothered me; I'm just saying.

[Miller]

You suck at whatever instrument it is you play.

It's not the fact that you are good , but more the fact that you try hard to be good. Do your best, forget all the rest. That's my motto.

[creech42]

If that was supposed to be a Haiku, you screwed up. The last line has 6 syllables (sp?,) not 5.

It wasn't, it was a false rendering of the Socratic method. Socrates, being Greek, wouldn't have employed Japanese poetic form.

The Socratic method of reasoning is usually illustrated as thus:

If X = Y and Y = Z, then X = Z.

For example,

All men are mortal.
Socrates is a man.
Therefore Socrates is mortal.


Transitive Property (http://www.mathwords.com/t/transitive_property.htm)

I missed the Math is wrong post somewhere. Explain.

[Miller]

I missed the Math is wrong post somewhere. Explain.

I didn't really want to get so far into it, but since I'm here, here goes.

Well I was just saying that if Math is correct and perfect as we claim it to be, then everything would be easily explainable and nothing should be of question. Thus because infinite exists and we don't understand it, math is somehow flawed.

I'm guessing you've done David Hilburt's Hotel problem. If you did, then you should know a little more about infinite and maybe see why there is more of a chance that math is wrong.

Also for more knowledge, if you have proved the number 1 exists in some class or read up about it, then you would know that the number 1 only possible using 2 different theories that haven't been proven yet. Thus, when I prove one of those theories false, then math will be false. Very simple.

It you want to talk to me about it more, message me or something and I'll let you know what things I've came up with.

[joe_cam]

Joe Cam is a god
He will rock your fucking face
Bow to the Joe Cam

haiku like a mofucka!

[Cloud Strife]

I won't make a poem
Because I don't feel like it
And you can't make me.

[hillarygayle]

Flaming, spamming, crap.
These boards used to be so nice.
At least we're not bored!

[Cloud Strife]

Hil's fucking awesome
And if you argue with that
A brick will hit you.

[hillarygayle]

Hil's fucking awesome
And if you argue with that
A brick will hit you.

CLOUD! YOU PRECIOUS LITTLE METEOROLOGICAL PHENOMENON! YOU WROTE ME A HAIKU!

[Cloud Strife]

Hil's fucking awesome
And if you argue with that
A brick will hit you.

CLOUD! YOU PRECIOUS LITTLE METEOROLOGICAL PHENOMENON! YOU WROTE ME A HAIKU!

I don't know what the hell she just called me, but like Ybrik, it will be going into my profile :D

I rule

[joe_cam]

Cloud just popped a bone
Because Hil said something nice
Too bad he's still Cloud

:lol:

[Cloud Strife]

Your words don't faze me
Because I know you're only
Jealous about that.

[joe_cam]

Oh my god you're right
I want to be just like you
I dont deserve life

Ha ha ha I jest
I am the greatest ever
You can suck my nuts!

OK, maybe not
That sounded way too damn gay
Burn in hell instead


This is fun

(Edit: grammar nazi's attacked)

[Cloud Strife]

to damn gay

too*

Joe Cam's a fuck tart
With whipped cream and a cherry
And sprinkles on top.

He can't beat me up
Although he may think he can
He knows that he can't.

These are really fun
But I'm done here for tonight
See you all again!

[Ybrik Metaknight]

This thread has become
A place we can show off our
Haiku-writing skills.

[joe_cam]

I could fuck Cloud up
He is a skinny twirp bitch
But he smells too bad

Ybrik is cool though
He is a haiku masta
He's friggin tall too

What the hell is up?
I'm doing haikus online
My existence sucks

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Yes, Joe Cam is right.
I am a freakin' giant.
Six foot and seven.

[joe_cam]

Six foot and seven
Yes, that is truely massive
And that's just his *beep*

[Symmetry]

Why am I posting?
I cannot haiku like you.
I suck at life, yes?

[animefreak]

dale north rocks your mom
he is in love with joe cam
aguilera too

[Nancie in a Can]

Haiku, I hate you,
You are too damn hard to do.
I should just write stories.

That's not my own, but I wish it was. :)

[joe_cam]

Now I'm wondering if "Dale" is one syllable or two...

Day-uhl?

[Ybrik Metaknight]

One. I'm gonna say "Dale" is one syllable, short and sweet.

[Cloud Strife]

Haiku, I hate you,
You are too damn hard to do.
I should just write stories.

You fucked up...lol :P

Ybrik's a genius
Stated by Hillary Gayle
And I'm so precious

Haha...I rock.

[animefreak]

cloud wants some cookies
so he flirts with hillary
and meets a large brick

[Cloud Strife]

Yes I want cookies
But I'm also her Dragoon
So ha ha ha ha!

[Kassi]

I don't know why, but the haiku I like usually has to do with death :( Maybe I'm morbid. Here are a few from my haiku journal (I have a journal for everything). Unfortunately I don't know who wrote most of them.

The piercing chill I feel
My dead wife's comb
In our bedroom
Under my heal - Taniguchi Buson (I think that's tanka and not haiku)

- - -

His grave
Covered with
My sky

- - -

Back Home
The bookmark in his bible
Does not move

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Kassi, a Haiku is a three-line poem, with five syllables on the first line, seven on the second, and five on the third.

Like this:

LOLOL
ROFLMAO
LOLOL

(I saw that one over a year ago on a Haiku thread in OCR's UnMod forum.)

The poems you just posted are not Haiku.

What's a tanka?

[Kassi]

I was under the impression that Haiku was 2-3-2 or 5-7-5 or 3-5-3

as far as tanka, it's a japanese style similar to haiku.

(edit) Afterthought: Today I've learned 2 valuable lessons: don't drink coffee after 8 if you want to sleep and don't post when you're tired.

[hillarygayle]

Technically, what we're writing are ALL freaking BAD haiku. A haiku is a poem following the 5-7-5 frame, and most often, it compares the feelings of the writer to nature. It's descended from the poetic style most often used by Murasaki Shikibu, who wrote the first novel, the Tale of Genji. A waka (her style) is 5-7-5-7-7. Here's what WOULD be an appropriate haiku, if she were here...

A swell in my chest
Like the sun rising at dawn.
This man owns my heart.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Hillary is right.
We all write bad Haiku, but
Good Haiku are hard.

Honestly, yeah. Haiku are supposed to be about nature, or sometimes about an introspective look at the self. But if we stick to formal Haiku, we don't get to have as much fun. :wink:

[hillarygayle]

Hillary is right.
We all write bad Haiku, but
Good Haiku are hard.

Honestly, yeah. Haiku are supposed to be about nature, or sometimes about an introspective look at the self. But if we stick to formal Haiku, we don't get to have as much fun. :wink:

Oh ABSOLUTELY!

Too much Code Red can
Make Hillary go crazy.
Haiku about SPAM?!

[Symmetry]

Soda is bad for you.
Makes your bones disentigrate.
Oh my, that's not good!

[joe_cam]

I love Mountain Dew
Live Wire is fucking great
Fuck my rotting bones

[hillarygayle]

My diet Code Red:
All that keeps me sane, some days.
Bring on the caffeine!

[joe_cam]

I'm so happy now
Hil loves Mountain Dew as well
Yeah, post count + 1

[Ybrik Metaknight]

All love Mountain Dew
Keep us all awake, it does
So we never sleep.

[Nancie in a Can]

"Tell me, who are you?
Who are you, who who who who?
Who the fuck are you?"

:P

[Greg Kennedy]

You guys cheat so bad
Haiku is not one sentence
Break it into three.

EDIT1:
Stingray softly sleeps,
My probing will not wake him,
Sweet dreams, little one.

EDIT2:
I poke, poke his face,
And yet he still ignores me,
Poke, poke, poke, poke, pooooooke.

[Gendo Ikari]

Let us start a haiku
thread, and document our work there
let us start a thread

[Cloud Strife]

Moutain Dew is great
The orange, green, red, and pitch black
I can't give it up

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Pitch black? There's a new Mountain Dew out? Damn, I didn't know that.

[Cloud Strife]

Been out for weeks.

[Azar]

Apparently there is black milk too. I heard somebody on the drive thru order it when I was at work yesterday. I didnt even know we had black milk.

I really got to try some of that pitch black mountain dew, but they dont even have live wire in my town. What does it taste like?

[Cloud Strife]

Kinda like some grape
And kind of like Mountain Dew
You have to try it.

This stuff's pretty good
At least some people think so
Pick up a bottle.

[Lunar Moog]

What the heck happened?
This thread is different now.
I should check often.

[Nancie in a Can]

You guys cheat so bad
Haiku is not one sentence
Break it into three.

EDIT1:
Stingray softly sleeps,
My probing will not wake him,
Sweet dreams, little one.

EDIT2:
I poke, poke his face,
And yet he still ignores me,
Poke, poke, poke, poke, pooooooke.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Awesome. Marco rules.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Been out for weeks.

Yeah. Definitely don't have it here yet. You say it's like grape? Interesting.

[joe_cam]

Yeah...I've had a few 2 liters and I still dont know if I like it... I think i do since I keep drinking it...but I'm not positive... it's ... different.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

That's the way I was at first with Code Red...yeah, I very quickly realized that I really like the stuff.

[Lunar Moog]

There is a new Dew.
They say it is flavored grape.
I will try some soon.

[hillarygayle]

That's the way I was at first with Code Red...yeah, I very quickly realized that I really like the stuff.

Took me one DRINK. I didn't wanna let Bryan have a drink of it. It matches really well with chocolate, and SERIOUSLY. Drink it while eating pizza. It goes SO FREAKING WELL with cheese and tomato sauce.

[Ybrik Metaknight]

Code Red is so good.
It goes well with anything.
Drink it all the time.

[Miller]

http://home.comcast.net/~dushawn/Images/kaboomomg.gif

[Cloud Strife]

Yeah...I've had a few 2 liters and I still dont know if I like it... I think i do since I keep drinking it...but I'm not positive... it's ... different.

That's about how I am.

[hillarygayle]

http://home.comcast.net/~dushawn/Images/kaboomomg.gif

Hey Miller, what movie's that from?

[Mustin]

Mission: Impossible

[hillarygayle]

Thanks! I knew that looked familiar.